Tim Peake ISS to Schools Contact Thread

[mof000]

"We would all be far less aware of the earth vulnerability and fragility if the Russians and Americans hadn't been involved in the 1960's space race and, on those early lunar missions, sent back images of our home from 250,000 miles away. It is precisely because humans were involved in taking those images that the significance has been much greater understood in the ensuing years."

I much prefer the conspiracy theory attached to 1960's lunar landing!

[kr0ne]

And all the while here on Earth old folk are dying in their cold, unheated homes with no 'home helps' to look after em....
Tim Peake is a qualified rotary test pilot...hes not a scientist...hes there as a token Brit... No more no less...
We are raping n pillaging our Earth to the point the pollution caused is killing us.....and yet all folk can think about is 'reaching for the stars' n poncing about playing at being Buzz Lightyear.... :wtf

What do you suppose the effect of taking the £11+ billion per year and 30,000 jobs that our space industry represents out of the economy would be?

It's no secret that life gets harder and shorter the farther back through time that you go, more so the poorer that you are.

A good welfare system requires a strong economy.

[LeakyFeeder]

Soooooo its Knackers to the freezing pensioners, lets close more maternity units and those in genuine need can take a running stumble to infinity and beyond......
Fear not dear earthlings though we still have a space industry and whats more we have 'our man' in orbit....

Seriously though we need to get our own house in order before we go looking for somewhere else to muck up

[MW6ZAN]

Lets be honest about the cost 360 million spent on this flight of fancy if spent would have fixed the problems with the flood defences that many people have had to suffer totall misery over the xmas period some will not be able to live in their homes for 12 months or so this is an on going thing what does our mighty leaders do, a bloody patch up job to save as much as possible, World hunger is yet another thing that needs resolving. I read a story today in the local barry gem newspaper over christmas the main hospital in cardiff the heath had buckets catching rain because the bloody roof leaks, our nhs is being underfunded our schools are in a mess our road infrastructure is basically falling apart. The cost of a first time house purchase has now out of reach and the dam list goes on and on and on.Yet the gov can spend billions on projects that really the common person in the street really do not give a flying fig about.when we can travel 100 times the speed of light then space exploration will be viable untill then sort out our planets problems first before taking our problems out into the void. I would just like to add a foot note, im very surprised that the enviromentalists have not spoken up about the damage these space flights are creating with the amount of rocket exhaust gas being produced i wonder what amount of co2 in exhaust fine soot particles are doing to increase global warming.

[GeeFull]

Lets be honest about the cost 360 million spent on this flight of fancy if spent would have fixed the problems with the flood defences that many people have had to suffer totall misery over the xmas period some will not be able to live in their homes for 12 months or so this is an on going thing what does our mighty leaders do, a bloody patch up job to save as much as possible, World hunger is yet another thing that needs resolving. I read a story today in the local barry gem newspaper over christmas the main hospital in cardiff the heath had buckets catching rain because the bloody roof leaks, our nhs is being underfunded our schools are in a mess our road infrastructure is basically falling apart. The cost of a first time house purchase has now out of reach and the dam list goes on and on and on.Yet the gov can spend billions on projects that really the common person in the street really do not give a flying fig about.when we can travel 100 times the speed of light then space exploration will be viable untill then sort out our planets problems first before taking our problems out into the void.

Nah some would say you are too "inward looking", and not reaching for the stars!
The time to reach for the stars is when you are well and truely "on top of" the awful mess left behind on terra firma, and you have spare cash to throw away on flights of fancy!
You don't have to stand on the Moon "looking back at the Earth" to get a sense of things are not quite right down here, and a little bit fragile!
You only have to live here to realise that!
The biggest problem with the human race is its never ending thoughts along the lines of the grass is greener "over there"!
With a bit more home grown effort, the grass currently stood on could be just as green, and going "over there" would become unecessary!
I hear time and time again the comment "it shows what we can achieve as the human race if we all pull together"!
NO it shows what a few well funded, niche technical field, narrowly focused educated folks can achieve when they all pull together, it has little beneficial effect on all the billions of ordinary folks not involved!
Now if we could "end world poverty by all pulling together", or simply "end all wars by all pulling together", or "erradicate cancer and all major ailments", or many other terra firma things that would benefit the worlds "majority", we could really pat ourselves on the back as a species, and justifiably so!
Sadly the bulk of normal folks don't get Nobel prizes, or bestowed accolades, or international kudos, for simply surviving, whilst the privileged few "rocket off" on their self important back patting jollies!
Often at the expense of those very same folks left behind scratching a "just about managing to survive" living, from the "real" dirt we live on.
It really is time we started inward looking, instead of wishful thinking outward looking to the stars!
BTW most major innovations and inventions that we now take for granted, like radio, coomunications, TV, health care, electronics in general, you name it, are not spin off's of the space race, their initial idea roots well predate it!
We can be just as innovative at home, and come up with just as many new ideas, as any offspins of space exploration will ever provide!
We can of course always thank them for Velcro, if it had not been for that we would all still have the chore of tying laces.

[Test for Echo]

@DellboyOnline - thanks for the posting, I shall certainly listen out for that.

Shame about the naysayers, lack of investment in this country continues to put us at a disadvantage with our competitors.

[GeeFull]

@DellboyOnline - thanks for the posting, I shall certainly listen out for that.

Shame about the naysayers, lack of investment in this country continues to put us at a disadvantage with our competitors.

And also leaves some poor souls lying on trollies in hospital corridors, freezing cold alone at home when old and infirm, or waste deep in sewerage filled flood water!
But at least they are nice and warm, well medicaly looked after, and bone dry on the space station!

[delboyonline]

Live stream for the event:


https://principia.ariss.org/sandringham ... of-events/

[LeakyFeeder]

At least Space Ranger Bruce Willis will come to the rescue in his tuned up, retired Space Shuttle.....

[delboyonline]

And by the way the UK total spending budget for 2016 is 760 BILLION POUNDS!

370 million represents less than 0.0005% of the budget!!!

Which is quite frankly a total disgrace for one of the wealthiest countries in the world! Bearing in mind that for every pound invested you can expect at least 8 pounds returned!

Putting MORE money into space research would in fact be of great benefit to our economy!!!

If you want to save money, this is the sort of thing that should be looked at:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/to ... ws-5261242

Just one example of one MP, £34,000 could feed a lot of hungry pensioners....!

[GeeFull]

And by the way the UK total spending budget for 2016 is 760 BILLION POUNDS!

370 million represents less than 0.0005% of the budget!!!

Which is quite frankly a total disgrace for one of the wealthiest countries in the world! Bearing in mind that for every pound invested you can expect at least 8 pounds returned!
Putting MORE money into space research would in fact be of great benefit to our economy!!!

If you want to save money, this is the sort of thing that should be looked at:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/to ... ws-5261242

Just one example of one MP, £34,000 could feed a lot of hungry pensioners....!

Yeah I have heard it all before, please post the link for where I can weekly donate my £1, with a guaranteed £8 return, its better than doing the lottery!
In fact if it works for a quid, the following week I will make it £100, and if that pans out the week after that a grand!
WIN WIN for me then!
Yes £34,000 could feed a lot of pensioners, £370 million could feed an awful lot more, and is equivelent to approx 10,882 of said politicians.
And as you recon 370 million represents less than 0.0005% of the budget, then all of our politicians pay combined don't really add up to financial hill of beans in overall cost do they?

[LeakyFeeder]

Yeah we know all about MP's fiddling... Our ex MP Eric Illsley did some porridge at a prison i often work from before he went to a holiday camp....errr open prison.

[pete_uk]

Would love to listen in but I will be finishing work at 9!

Hope Tim inspires a new generation of engineers as, boy do we need them!

[kr0ne]

Lets be honest about the cost 360 million spent on this flight of fancy

If you are going to be honest, you can't claim that £360 million was spent on this flight.

360 million spent on this flight of fancy if spent would have fixed the problems with the flood defences that many people have had to suffer totall misery over the xmas period

Do you have a source for this estimate?

World hunger is yet another thing that needs resolving.

Correct. Not sure of the relevance though, or how shrinking the global economy would help to resolve this?

I read a story today in the local barry gem newspaper over christmas the main hospital in cardiff the heath had buckets catching rain because the bloody roof leaks

That's terrible! They should fix the roof. Maybe start another thread about this though as it doesn't really seem relevant to this discussion and shrinking the UK economy certainly won't make more money avaible to the NHS or help spend what money is available more wisely.

The cost of a first time house purchase has now out of reach

This obviously makes you angry, but I'm struggling to see how it is relevant to this discussion in any way whatsoever?

[kr0ne]

The biggest problem with the human race is its never ending thoughts along the lines of the grass is greener "over there"!

Wow! You see a desire to constantly strive for progress and improvement as "the biggest problem with the human race"?