RIP storenet

[MW6ZAN]

Hi guys i have the painfull duty to inform you that the barry storenet analogue tx on 453.7375 Mhz has now migrated to the ear bending and distasteful digital system RIP BARRY STORENET.

[radiosification]

Hi guys i have the painfull duty to inform you that the barry storenet analogue tx on 453.7375 Mhz has now migrated to the ear bending and distasteful digital system RIP BARRY STORENET.

Digital systems are actually very good. Do you know what type of digital it is? DMR, NXDN, TETRA?

[GeeFull]

Hi guys i have the painfull duty to inform you that the barry storenet analogue tx on 453.7375 Mhz has now migrated to the ear bending and distasteful digital system RIP BARRY STORENET.

Digital systems are actually very good. Do you know what type of digital it is? DMR, NXDN, TETRA?

Perhaps, just perhaps, their main concerns and reasons for the system changeover, had nothing to do with the conveniance of "casual listeners"!
What exactly did you find enthralling about it?
The odd mention of someone you know being named as a shop lifter, or the occasional "heads up" to a bargain, so you could fill the "preppers" store room with dry goods?
I find it very strange that folks dote on the day to day RF traffic of any major "stores" be that shelf stacking, (more beans needed in aisle three), or miscreants stealing stock and pending police attendance, or problems in the car parking area?
Each to their own I guess, or was storenet something quite different?

[welshevo]

according to another post Barry shop watch have gone DMR mototrbo! will fire up the DSD and see what info i can grab

[MW6ZAN]

Think your missing the point geefull their are a number of listeners that COLLECT working frequencies and not so much listen to them once identified and move on to the next thats what i like doing problem is now every tom **** and harry seem to be migrating over to a system thats not really radio but two computer terminals comunicating together but i do understand that some frequencies really need encryping police fire ambulance etc problem is even the ham bands are going down the slippery digital slope lets be honest as it stands with ham radio there are 4 differing digital systems that cannot talk to each other how long is it before we loose air band marrine and the short wave bands to this abomination if the digital system is secure and nobody other than the users are able to access it who the hell is watching the watchers 73 -- •-- -•••• --•• •- -• -•-

[Andy]

Go easy, Geefull. Scanning enthusiasts are a varied lot - some listen to Shopwatch & Pubwatch, some listen to aircraft and others listen to baby alarms. It's what we do. I don't really know what you like doing, but I suspect it may not interest 90% of other radio types, including me. Having a rant at someone who likes eavesdropping on Shopwatch just because you can't see the attraction is like me throwing a hissy fit at a bunch of stamp collectors.
It is somewhat dis-heartening to lose the ability to listen to your favourite channels because they have gone digital, especially when there was no need for them to do so.

[kr0ne]

I pretty much agree with everything that Andy said, but statements like the below really make me question what business any of us have listening in to anything at all!

if the digital system is secure and nobody other than the users are able to access it who the hell is watching the watchers

Let's not be under any illusions here, we have absolutely zero "right" to listen in to any business radio users. They do, however, have a reasonable right to privacy.

Just because they happen to use a radio to communicate does not mean that they have given this up! How many TM1 members would be happy with me listening in to all of their phone calls? How would they feel if I chose to record their calls? Upload them to YouTube?

It is disheartening when bits of our hobby become defunct, but lets not kid ourselves that these users are somehow doing something wrong by moving with the times.

And for goodness sake, we have NOT been tasked with monitoring them to check what they are up to... we are a bunch of geeks who have chosen to break the law by listening in to them for one reason only - our own pleasure!

[superdave]

Not sure why you'd say "RIP". DMR is probably working out a lot better for storenet than analogue was. GPS, text messaging, bluetooth, private calls, encryption, two systems on one repeater etc. Just a few of the benefits.

FYI Plymouth storenet has been on DMR for a year or so and I've been listening fine with DSD+ and my DMR radios.

[Excalibur]

I would have assumed they had moved to a system like TETRA for this reaction to happen. DMR unless using privacy and/or RAS. Can be listened to, just like different modes FM/AM ect.

DMR is actually a very good system and I can see why such a network like storenet/shopwatch would want to move to it, there are tons of features such as text messages and the ability to have two users simultaneously talking on the same channel using TDMA technology.
You should get an SDR and DSD and see what you can discover. It's really fun and it is still "radio".

[Radioshane]

you're wrong wer'e not a bunch of geeks

[kr0ne]

Absolutely right! Should have read: "geeks and creepy weirdos"...

[MW6ZAN]

Hi guys where storenet became intersting was after 7.30 evenings pub watch took over and things got interesting on friday nights over on barry island day time listening was a waste of time mind it did show how the system was run in the vale keystone cops spring to mind. Best regards.

[kr0ne]

I remember listening to my local shopnet following this lass with a pushchair around the shop once.

She'd stolen a packet of crisps you see, one of those big packets, and had it stashed in the pushchair and was slowly eating them as she walked around the shop.

There was much talk of her looking like trouble and they held off intercepting her until there was a few of them in the store, despite worrying that she might actually eat all the evidence before they managed to nab her!

Eventually they pounced when she made the mistake of getting in a lift. There was no escape now and four people standing by for when it all kicked off.

Unfortunately, the crisps were a supermarkets own brand and the closest supermarket was miles away...

[Admiral]

What Andy said.

I live less than a mile from a shopping mall ATCF, I get all manner of DMR traffic from there via DSD+, and it bores the crap out of me.

But, if I receive a transmission from an aircraft going from Alicante to Luton over the Pyrenees then I get well excited.

Each to their own, but don't knock what others enjoy.